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Title: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Graham Bannister on Mar 17, 2017 12:09
Good day fellow pilots of Intercity
As a lover of the PMDG Jetstream J41 I want to encourage you all to get that if you don't already have it. Then I want all you new guys to join me in the J41 Fleet.  :D

Jets are okay... Dash 8....meh.

Now a real aircraft for real pilots is the J41.....Come try it you are guaranteed to like it. A beast to learn to fly. You may burn a few engines once in a while whilst learning but when you master it she becomes a dream to fly.

I recommend you get FS2 Crew for PMDG J41 also...
Live life. Fly with us. 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Chris Hulme on Mar 18, 2017 10:31
I NEED to get back into flying the JS41, I did log a few hours in her then went over to flying the Dash 8 and the Airbus!


Found this tutorial which might be of use to any budding JS41 pilots!


http://pako1802.free.fr/PMDG_J41_PILOT_TUTORIAL.pdf (http://pako1802.free.fr/PMDG_J41_PILOT_TUTORIAL.pdf)
Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Chris Liu on Mar 18, 2017 10:43
You don't need a tutorial Chris, you've got me!!! Still my favourite FSX aircraft bar none, hopefully one day PMDG will port it to P3D
Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Sean Donno on Mar 19, 2017 01:41
Hi All
I have been away for a while, but have returned and just added the J41 to my fleet.
A slippery aircraft by all accounts, so I am going to need some more training flights before being signed off to fly any routes, but got some sessions planned.
Lovely aircraft though  8)


Sean
Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Graham Bannister on Mar 19, 2017 02:07
Best PMDG and to me the best aircraft. It is my fleet so treat them gently gentlemen  :D

No other like her.
Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Chris Liu on Mar 19, 2017 11:39
She's slippery because of the geared engines. The wind must never turn the props/engines because it would cause damage so to get around this they simply made idle torque quite high, so even if you're going 250 kts at idle the engines are still producing a little thrust!
Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Chris Hulme on Mar 19, 2017 17:48
Well, I dusted the old girl off and she wasn't kind to me! Set the engine alight whilst trying to start her! Need more practice!


(https://s7.postimg.org/svmm2flln/17373085_267189090373161_1784442829_o.png)
Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Chris Liu on Mar 19, 2017 18:21
EGT below 200'c before commencing engine start and condition levers taxi. At least those engines look to be on the start locks.

If they're above 200'c you can do a ventilation run by setting the MANUAL STARTER rotary switch to ENERGISE and then pressing START (make sure the START MASTER is selected correctly too), this will motor the engine without introducing fuel or ignition which makes it cool quicker. You have to stop it after 30 seconds though IIRC otherwise you'll kill the starter motor, by pressing STOP.

Technically you can continue through to a manual start if it drops below 200'c and you're feel competent.
Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Sean Donno on Mar 20, 2017 01:08
Don't worry Chris H!


I have done some training flights, which all went well, so decided to start with ICX1. Three attempts now and had double engine failure on all of them  :-[


More training (and reading) required  ;)
Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Sean Donno on Mar 20, 2017 09:38
Finally  ;D


[smg id=572]
Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Graham Bannister on Mar 20, 2017 17:02
Hiya Sean

Now that's what I call a real aircraft.
Just watch how you start her up regularly. Would suggest also you get the FS2Crew for her.. Takes a load off the starting and other tasks.  ;D 8)

GB

Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Sean Donno on Mar 20, 2017 18:25
Quote from: Graham Bannister on Mar 20, 2017 17:02
Hiya Sean

Now that's what I call a real aircraft.
Just watch how you start her up regularly. Would suggest also you get the FS2Crew for her.. Takes a load off the starting and other tasks.  ;D 8)

GB


Really enjoying this one  :D


I have FS2Crew for the Dash, and really like it, so it is on my shopping list for this also  ;)
Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Graham Bannister on Mar 20, 2017 19:40
Next step...
EGLC Hub... 8)
Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Chris Hulme on Mar 20, 2017 20:58
Did a fam flight with Mr Liu tonight, no fires and successfully got her down in the Isle of Man. 2 screenshots, one over where I live in Liverpool and one on stand in IOM


(https://s10.postimg.org/vro6qv6vd/ss4.jpg)


(https://s7.postimg.org/o9mhyht5n/ss5.jpg)
Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Sean Donno on Mar 20, 2017 21:31
Saw you flying as I did the return trip from EGNX to EGLC  :)


Some of my early problems were caused by me backing off the Condition Levers slightly in the cruise and this raises the EGT quite drastically.


I re-read Mr Liu's excellent FAQ's again and now monitor the EGT's a lot closer  ;)
Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Chris Liu on Mar 20, 2017 22:16
Yeah I took Chris H up for a refresher and I'm pleased to say he's certifiable  ::)  Actually refreshed me too as I didn't use FS2Crew so had to remember the FO's workflows.

Glad the FAQ helped Sean, basically if you're going to reduce the prop RPM or activate anti-icing, reduce thrust first so you're at the cooler white mark on the EGT (typically this is around 610'c), do your prop RPM adjustments and then push the power forward again to the EGT red line.
Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Benjamin Hall on Mar 21, 2017 19:55
This aircraft sounds like a devil even compared to the Dash.
Pity I have p3d so can't experience the twin bbq.

Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Graham Bannister on Mar 21, 2017 22:20
She's not a devil.
A feisty hot tempered vixen who has a serious affinity for blowing engines.

And as for descent... You got to slow her down before you bring her down or your descent and landing will be tricky escapade too.

She definitely makes you work for your reward.
Title: Re: Invitation to Fly Jetstream J41
Post by: Sean Donno on Mar 22, 2017 19:59
Thanks Chris  :)


Circuits at EGLC with that 5.5 degree approach is how to learn airspeed and descents in this one  ;)